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2) To force people read content carefully and/or with more concentration.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 03:49 AM

Problem UserProxy Detection And Blocking.

I am looking for an inexpensive way to block one problem user I have that keeps hounding me and harassing me. I am practially playing "whack a mole". As he keeps coming one with new anonymous proxy servers I am blockng them.

Is there an inexpensive and easy way to block all anonymous proxies without having to play "whack a mole" with this guy 

-reply by Chilly8

Posted 21 March 2009 - 10:28 PM

I think anyone who wants to block anonymous proxies should have the right to do so. Regardless of what other people think about it.

After all, a websites content does belong to the owner of that website.If they want to block an anonymous proxy user from accessing their website it is up to them.

The "surfer" of a web site really does not have any rights when surfing websites.Only what the owner of the website allows. People tend to forget this and take it for granted.


Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:08 PM

Anonymous ProxiesProxy Detection And Blocking.

Lets just start by saying yes it is true that many people misuse anonymous proxies. (proxy chains, tor etc.) for purposes that are or may be illegal. And yes there are a lot of people who do this, but the same people who are the ones that pursue them are the ones who use them.Let's face it there will always be censorship issues wherever in life. The Library computer, the Arab Internet, The Great Firewall of China are all good examples but what people don't realize is that there will always be a way around any firewall, honey pot, php, java script, or any other applet that anyone can create.

These Countries, Dictators and Network Administrators get by on the fact that the average person does not know how to exploit blacklisting. But more and more people become saavy everyday. The mantra "Knowledge is Power" has really reached an all new meaning in the 21st century. This has drawn an all new following. Looks like the script kiddies are growing up a little.

My point is Anonymous proxies not only serve the "guilty" ones but they also play an integral role in the internet. In fact would you go out to a restaurant flashing your ID or credit card number around? Thats basically what you are doing on a direct connection. A Hacker having your real IP address is like wrapping a bow around your box and installing a trojan. Especially if it is windows vista.There really is no way to tell if the server you get the page from is the real thing anyways. Even a proxy cant help you with this only a good wiresniffing program can help you with an ARP Poisoning attack. Anonymous proxy would have at least bought you some time. Out of sight out of mind.At least a proxy server gives you a slight advantage against hackers while you surf.- "Some people call it paranoid, I call it prepared

- ReNeGaDe


Posted 17 October 2007 - 04:45 PM

It doesn't matter whether any people here, right now, are living in China. Blocking proxies is a form of censorship. If you do, you take people's rights away. You can, you may, for "your server, your rules", just like the Chinese government can, for they set the rules in China. But no matter what the reasoning is, you're still taking away possibilities. Any assumption, be it "they are all criminals", "no user of mine lives in China", "most people do/are/want xxx anyways", will be not true for some subset. Denying this means you are being untruthful about what you are doing. For this reason I find your points and your unverifyable percentages particularly dishonest.

I'm not saying you can't block: I already said you can. I am saying any justification will be at least partly not true; there will be collateral damage. Question is, are you willing to live with what you're doing to your userbase?

In case you haven't stopped reading: I don't care at all whether you block. I do take offense at the backhanded reasoning. Just accept that you are censoring and be up front about it.

-Hunter

SilverFox

Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:52 PM

1. Do any of us live in China? I rest my case.
2. The answer to things like china is forcible revolution not proxies.
3. Using a German proxy won't tell you how fast from Germany as you have to connect to the proxy.
4. Open proxies can do just as good. You don't need anon. proxies.
5. Most people have PCs anyways at home and don't need to use their school one for anything but BS.

Tor is not blocked by an ISP and if your ISP doesn't want you getting it then get a new damn ISP. If I was an ISP I would like people following my guidelines. Look at it from their point of view.

In 90% of all sites proxies that are anon. are not legitimate, epically in an online browser game.

Chesso

Posted 22 May 2007 - 03:11 PM

In an online web browser game? (the purpose of this blocking of anonymous proxies).

School, Work or College: Shouldn't be playing it here anyway.

ISP Blocking sites: Who's problem is that? not mine lmao.

I know of, have played and participated (as staff) in a few such games and haven't heard of a single person with a legitimate excuse for using an anonymous proxy.

English sites don't tend to attract germans, arabs or chinese (within there respective countries)...... unless of course they have a good command of the english language.

ethergeek

Posted 22 May 2007 - 03:07 PM

there is no need for anonymous proxies unless your doing something naughty.


That's complete bullshit. Anonymous proxies are great for all kinds of things that are perfectly legal and acceptable behavior. You're projecting the actions of the few who abuse them onto the many that don't.

Example, let's say you're in a country with a restrictive regime that blocks most web sites, including world news (like the Arab countries, and China). Known proxies are quickly found and added to the block list at the ISP edges, so the only ones that work for them are the anonymous ones that people put up.

Another example, let's say (in my case when I was in high school) I wanted to read the Starr report at school, as part of a report that already got my instructor's approval for the controversial content matter. The library computers there could not pull up any part of the report because it contained sexually charged language and the staff at the library did not know how to fix it, since the firewall operated at the district level. An anonymous proxy is what got me through that.

Final example, let's say I want to see how fast my site loads for someone in say, Germany. I use a German proxy to fetch the page and time it, then I subtract the time it takes to load the same amount of data from the proxy page itself.

In closing, there are many legitimate uses of anonymous proxies, and some people use them simply because they're paranoid. Either way, when you block them you cut off a segment of your visitors/customers. Just something to keep in mind.

Chesso

Posted 22 May 2007 - 06:06 AM

Yeah iv'e tried those methods, they'll catch public open proxies, but they aren't the problem.

These websites cop multiple accounts from people using anonymous proxy sign ups (MANY multiple accounts) to get ahead in the game.

If they use a public open proxy then I can know what there real IP is and if they already have an account, or other general trace.

But an anonymous one hides it, so I can't tell if they are legitimate or not.

Quatrux

Posted 22 May 2007 - 05:27 AM

I don't see any point of blocking a proxy connection, due to I myself sometimes use a proxy and it is usually not bad and there are reasons, of course, some anonymous proxies might be used to hack your site and that you wouldn't be able to find them, but usually if you will want to be hacked by some good guru/hardcore hacker, a php script which won't let a connection with a proxy won't help you a lot, in fact I doubt it will help.. anyway, here is my script I wrote some years ago to determine the right ip address of the user:

function getStats() {

	global $s; // $s &= $_SERVER;

	/* Get Info about User */
	$stats['proxy'] 	= '';
	$stats['info'] 	= $s['HTTP_USER_AGENT'];
	$stats['page'] 	= $s['REQUEST_URI'];
	$stats['method'] 	= $s['REQUEST_METHOD'];

	/* Check Server Name */
	if (!isset($s['SERVER_NAME'])) {
		if (isset($s['HOSTNAME'])) {
			$stats['server'] = $s['HOSTNAME'];
		} elseif (isset($s['HTTP_HOST'])) {
			$stats['server'] = $s['HTTP_HOST'];
		} elseif (isset($s['SERVER_ADDR'])) {
			$stats = $s['SERVER_ADDR'];
		} else {
			$stats['server'] = 'localhost';
		}
	} else {
		$stats['server'] = $s['SERVER_NAME'];
	}

	/* Check http Proxy and IP Address */
	if (isset($s['HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR'])) {
		if (isset($s['HTTP_CLIENT_IP'])) {
			$stats['proxy'] = $s['HTTP_CLIENT_IP'];
		} else {
			$stats['proxy'] = $s['REMOTE_ADDR'];
		}
		$stats['ip'] = $s['HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR'];
	} elseif (isset($s['HTTP_CLIENT_IP'])) {
		$stats['ip'] = $s['HTTP_CLIENT_IP'];
	} else {
		$stats['ip'] = $s['REMOTE_ADDR'];
	}
	# Return the Array
	return $stats;
}

and the usage of this is something like $stats = getStats(); and you'll get an array, to see what it has you can just do a print_r($stats); and thats all, this script was written years ago, maybe some headers appeared or something better, so a google search or a search in the manual might also help to improve it. B)

Chesso

Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:54 AM

Well I'm sure there is a legitimate use but I can't think of one, and haven't heard of anyone using it for one so yeah lol.

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