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Replying to Jesus Christ: A Real Person Or A Psychedelic Mushroom?
Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:21 PM
Because they say that for someone that walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead including being resurrected, how could this person not be captured in secular history? Baffling??
And could not the resurrection that was spoken of possibly be reincarnation???? BLASPHEMY I know, however...
While I do claim to be a Christian, not of the conventional sort that you might find, but a Sabbatarian type. It is an interesting topic.
Because it's possible that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil may have well been the Mushroom. Ever done LSD? Ever heard someone say that it's like being propelled into a different plane of existence?
What it lends itself to is that if the Mushroom is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, then the recognition of the Spiritual plane above would be the knowledge of Good and this world below would be the knowledge of Evil? Or visa versa??
But if you've ever read the Enki Sumerian Tablets on YouTube or E.W. Bullinger's "The Witness of the Stars" then the prophecy of the stars is all about Christ.
Maybe two of the most important books you'll ever read!
So I'm going to say that yeah He was probably real because of the prophecy of the stars.
But the more interesting thing is the mushroom and if it was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
That's the real issue. Because I do believe that people have adequately demonstrated that Astro-projection is possible. And if that's the case...
Then David Wilcock becomes a very interesting character doesn't he?
I don't want to destroy anyone's faith in Christ, but the subject of the mushroom should be taken seriously.
Don't they say that rejection of something you don't know anything about is the highest form of ignorance?
And that the only thing that can keep a man in everlasting ignorance is contentment prior to investigation?
Posted 15 September 2010 - 10:35 PM
this is supid, sure there is evidence but that doesnt mean that jesus or God exist. Evil demons possesing people, failed God(book) may have pictures but we have evidence that jesus acctually walked. They have the wrap thing they wraped Jesus in when he was dead, coming back from the dead maybe bizzar but God and Jesus has the power beyond man's imagination. Pictures and painting cant explain what happened in the past nor can words from a book(the bible as well, I don't know how man started but its beyond us) u may believe what u want.
Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:17 PM
I am a believer... and a former psychedelic junkie... I had many, many experiences that led me to pursue Christ... I believe without question, he is who he says he is... And more importantly, that we are who he says we are... Just like him through simple belief. He represents the God-designed Life that is available to all
I also have questioned the importance of entheogens in this dance called life... the funny thing about the mushroom (and many fungii based halucinogens) is that I believe they point directly to the cross... that out of decay (death) something rises up anew, and creates such a Life giving experience... oddly similar to the death and resurrection of Jesus...
I believe all of creation, once properly and objectively observed, points to the finished work of the cross. But I am most thankful that the Spirit of Christ that is given to us through belief confirms who we really are so we don't have to endlessly debate the subject.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 08:27 AM
Personally I abhor religion.They all take the same basic principles and fight over whose version is better.
Also, personally, I don't believe Jesus ever existed. But I do believe in what Jesus stands for. Not Christianity, but just being a good person. Karma.
Chances are that all divine interactions were drug or psychosis-induced, but who's to say what you experience on a substance isn't real. Perhaps there are other planes of existence, unbeknownst to us, with the current state of our brains inhibiting our perception of them. Perhaps, with the right chemical state, a door IS opened in one's mind that allows normally imperceptible things to become perceptible.
Who knows, but this Jesus character -- who may have been a figment of someone's imagination -- at least had his heart in the right place...
It's whoever relayed his message to the world that screwed it up.-reply by Pothedd
Posted 08 June 2009 - 11:24 AM
Epistemology is the study of knowledge and truth and in particular how we can say for sure that anything is true.
There are essentially two types of knowledge according to epistemology a priori and a posteriori.
A posteriori is knowledge that is known by experience. Example our knowledge and assertion that the sun will rise tomorrow is rooted in the empirical evidence that it has done on every day that has preceeded it.
A priori is knowledge that is known independently of experience and is therefore said to be more 'reliable'.
The key issue here is that any concept of Jesus or belief in him is only based on empiricism that says he exists and would therefore be a posteriori knowledge. It is the extent to which you trust this type of knowledge that determines faith. (I just about have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow...)
Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:00 AM
From a logical point of view, if a sentence says "this is always verified", simply finding on example where it's not verified is enough for demonstrating that this sentence is false.
However, the opposite is not so easy. If a sentence says "this is sometimes not verified", finding an example where it's verified does not prove that the sentence is false.
That's all, and I started looping about that kind of arguments, which deeply have nothing to do with the main subject of this post.
That's why I would like to apologize for own pollution of this topic.
Posted 07 June 2009 - 08:48 PM
Posted 07 June 2009 - 08:17 PM
If a guy needs mushrooms in order to walk on water, and if I see him while I'm in a normal state, it's a paranormal situation.
While I am sleeping, if I see something strange, it could be simply an effect of my own dreams.
Posted 07 June 2009 - 08:02 PM
It appears to me there are potentially two issues being discussed here.
Firstly, as the title says, whether or not Jesus was a real person. And secondly, what connection, if any, the Christian church has to psychedelic mushrooms or other substances.
Indigenous peoples all over the world use shamanic rituals, often involve psychedelics, to transcend this world into the spirit world and view, what are in my opinion mere hallucinations, what could be interpreted as miracles.
Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:59 PM