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Replying to Plan To Create Human-cow Embryos
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Takumi-san
Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:16 AM
wellingtonboots
Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:06 PM
However now that we are able to get stems cells without growing human embryos (from the fluid surrounding human embryos) we should not feel the need to carry on experimenting with growing embryos of any kind.
Takumi-san
Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:08 AM
(I didn't want to say "it" because if he/she could possibly survive they wouldn't like being called "it". I'm fifteen so don't blame me.)
foolakadugie
Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:34 AM
Valkyria
Posted 14 January 2007 - 06:32 AM
In that case, I would state that there are two different kinds of human beings...
Chesso
Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:10 AM
We just happen to be a little more advanced in an overall scale than most other species.
But the differences aren't that great, or should I say not great enough.
Not a good example, but it's like saying the use of a 64-Bit CPU is an entirely different species compared to 32-Bit (and it really isn't *that* different).
Were more complex than that of course, but so is other life on this planet (think in proportion)
E.G, most animals have a brain, that functions more or less the same (it's still a brain), many have limbs like ours, mouths, heads, feet, bodies, a heart, they eat, they sleep, grow, many can walk, run, learn, some can even learn to talk like us.
Those are just the *I can see it* similarities, I don't know about under the hood.
Valkyria
Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:21 AM
foolakadugie
Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:17 PM
I see what you are saying, but I guess I just don't really think of the essence of humanity being particularly precious over any other organism. I don't see humans as being any more important or higher in status than any other organism. We may be smarter, but the world wouldn't be the same without everything else. We share the same genetic code with most other animals on the planet (just different programming). Only about 2 percent of that programming separates us from other species.It seems that the problem is what is the concept of human life. Something is human the moment it has the "essence" of humanity. From the moment of conception, this first cell has all the information that makes up for all a human being is. There isn't a stage later on in the whole process of embryo development that changes in essence so drastically to tell exactly -before this it isn't human; after this, it is. So tampering with cells, embryos, fetus, babies, adults or elderly people is exactly the same.
From all the advances and technology, I don't see any evolution or development in humankind: we may have the power to do anything, now is it correct to do it? For example, anyone has the means or the power to terminate another person's life. Does it mean that if we can do it, we have to?
So if we can play with cells and genes, does it mean that we have to do it? Does it mean that it's the only way we can deal with diseases?
If anything, I think that our technology and advances in science would stop us from evolving. Technology takes the place of evolution. Evolution works through the death and survival of organisms (survival of the fittest) from their environment, predators, etc. Bad genes are lost when individual animals with those genes cannot survive and just the opposite for those with good genes. We are removed from nature so natural selection really doesn't apply to us much anymore, except for maybe diseases (but even with many diseases we have medicine and such to help). There isn't much pushing the human race to evolve, since we live in a time when most of the human race live long lives and their survival isn't quite as difficult as it would be in nature.
Chesso
Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:39 AM
I should think not, come back to reality.
(Yes I'm just making a point)
As they say, you can't really gain without a sacrafice, and if the gain is worth more than the sacrafice, it's usually a straight out yes (good outweighing the bad), but it depends on the situation and what value you put on the comparison.
Valkyria
Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:54 AM
I don't mean to be disrespectful of others beliefs, but I don't understand why a microscopic glob of cells is any more precious than an actual human life. The stem cells could be used to save many lives and cure so many diseases and problems. I think that an actual human's life is more important than a few cells.
It seems that the problem is what is the concept of human life. Something is human the moment it has the "essence" of humanity. From the moment of conception, this first cell has all the information that makes up for all a human being is. There isn't a stage later on in the whole process of embryo development that changes in essence so drastically to tell exactly -before this it isn't human; after this, it is. So tampering with cells, embryos, fetus, babies, adults or elderly people is exactly the same.
From all the advances and technology, I don't see any evolution or development in humankind: we may have the power to do anything, now is it correct to do it? For example, anyone has the means or the power to terminate another person's life. Does it mean that if we can do it, we have to?
So if we can play with cells and genes, does it mean that we have to do it? Does it mean that it's the only way we can deal with diseases?



