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@  agyat : (23 May 2013 - 01:23 AM) Wow! Mr. Sb Back Home.
@  OpaQue : (23 May 2013 - 12:44 AM) Ting
@  OpaQue : (24 April 2013 - 02:44 PM) I guess, Time to run Mycent script.
@  OpaQue : (24 April 2013 - 02:43 PM) wow.. not much spam. except habatt posting lot of links.. :P
@  yordan : (23 April 2013 - 01:04 PM) You're welcome, agyat. Nice to have been helpful. Second lesson: try full words, "you" instead of "EW".
@  agyat : (23 April 2013 - 05:03 AM) @YORDAN: tHANK EW FOR YOUR FIRST LESSON.   :D
@  yordan : (22 April 2013 - 09:43 PM) @agyat : "why don't you help me", or "please help me", or "please teach us"
@  yordan : (22 April 2013 - 09:42 PM) welcome back, velma
@  velma : (22 April 2013 - 07:51 AM) **yawns** Good to be back, wonder what is going on here :)
@  agyat : (22 April 2013 - 03:50 AM) Oh! so, why don't help me learn english..
@  yordan : (21 April 2013 - 08:38 PM) The goal mentioned by shiu : "learning english, learning computer"
@  agyat : (21 April 2013 - 06:31 PM) WHAT GOAL?
@  yordan : (20 April 2013 - 10:39 AM) yes, that's our goal. simultaneouly learning English and teaching/learning computer using.
@  shiyu : (20 April 2013 - 07:30 AM) learning english,learning computer
@  yordan : (19 April 2013 - 01:11 PM) Oh, I see, it's just a trick in order to force people looking at your texte. Somehow smart, maybe.
@  agyat : (19 April 2013 - 02:54 AM) And of course I know it is not SEO friendly.
@  agyat : (19 April 2013 - 02:52 AM) There may be two possible answers for that ....


1) Shout was posted using mobile keypad.

2) To force people read content carefully and/or with more concentration.
@  agyat : (19 April 2013 - 02:49 AM) There may be two possible answers for that ....
@  yordan : (18 April 2013 - 09:35 PM) however, why this mixing of capital letters in the middle of your text?
@  agyat : (18 April 2013 - 11:10 AM) false feelings.

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Ananya

Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

Life of a programmer in India depends on what kind of a company a person is in.But for a person who enjoys doing programming,for whom it is a passion its always a fun & definitely a challenge that has to be met within a fixed deadline set up by the company you work for.For me its like a good area where you can apply mathematics & logic.

wutske

Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:26 AM

@aloKNsh: Nice :)

I've just graduated from school and I'm now looking for a job as developer in Belgium. The first thing I've noticed is that it's hard to find a job as developer without being a consultant. Being a consultant is nice because usually you get the nice additions like a company car and maybe even a laptop and/or cell phone, but usually, those get subtracted from your wage.
You also don't have to be super intelligent or an awesome developer to start, most companies realise that a junior developer isn't going to know everything. It's more important that you can solve problems and stuff rather than being able to develop (you're supposed to be able to develop, but as there are 1000 programming languages, it's hard to expect that someone knows a specific language, tough it's a plus if you know the language for which they need people).

So, as a junior in Belgium, there are plenty opportunities, a nice wage and some extras :D

aloKNsh

Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:17 PM

in india programmer or say a software engineer from a good institute has a luxurious life and lives like a king! but not for all those here only one thing is true and always on ' survival for the fittest' if you are good everyone will just ask for you only and no one and if arent good or got the degree from an z grade college then damn i dont think there is anylife left in here for that person..... as said by some one earlier... this line has got a much hype in this current 5 years only and now its growing like a popcorn in a minute so big. :D but lemme say if arent good or say not the best then your life will be like insect and if you have the capablity go on my friend whole country is yours :)

yordan

Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:54 PM

Basically within the industry of software, programmer has the lowest pay; managers and consultants the maximum.

This sounds like everywhere in the world.
However, how is the job evolution in your company?
Do you start as a low-level programmer, and then, when starting becoming experienced, do you raise to analyst, then give work to several programer and
become a manager, and after having proven your experience, become a consultant?

8ennett

Posted 30 July 2010 - 05:42 PM

It's hard to get work as a programmer in the UK because there are so many people who think they can code but are at best a beginner. They apply for all the jobs that require a higher grade programmer and seriously undersell the rest of us.

An employer in the finance sector for isntance, they hire business analysts and system analysts however they don't have a clue how difficult their job can be or what it involves, and because they don't understand it they think anyone who claims to be able to do it CAN do it. So they hire these complete amateurs who take forever to get the job done, which makes the employer think that this line of work isn't that important to the company.

I was once employed to work on a project for a large life assurance company as an assistant systems analyst. The job was basically to transfer the database to a new incompatible system after the company was taken over. They brought me in because they were behind on the deadline and needed an extra hand. The first day I started I was shocked at how ineffecient their methods were, it was incredible. After working there for two weeks the project manager realised that by myself I had achieved a 500% higher workload than any other person on the project so was given the running of my area and the rest were let go. The project was finished 4 months ahead of schedule and left me out of work again and underappreciated. I single-handedly finished what was supposed to be a further 8 months of work for 7 people in to 4 months by myself.

They then shrugged it off, didn't renew my contract and used the new system, hiring amateurs to develop the software for them leaving their general productivity a lot lower than it should be, simply because the amateurs will work for a lot less money. If they had kept me on to continue developing for them I could have reduced the amount of staff they required in the company by 1/3. Doesn't sound good on the employment side but in retrospect the company could have saved hundreds of thousands per year by hiring a professional. They didn't understand this fact though, and the cycle continues.

Until the rest of the world catches up and actually attempts to understand how computer programming works the professionals amongst us will always be undersold by amateurs, and with the amount of amatuers growing (who lack the flare for programming the rest of us have) it's just getting too hard to keep in this line of business.

stteen

Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:52 PM

well, I think programmers are under paid in China even though their incomes are relatively higher than many other workers.

tek3D

Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:56 PM

In my country, programmers have to work very hard and there income is so low.
So, there's so less percentage of programmer could be successful here.

Posted 22 February 2008 - 03:56 PM

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What's Life As A Programmer Like In Your Country?

I am looking to outsource some programming needs. FTP server with the ability for client login and contractor login with a static IP Address.

Could you send me your contact email; so that I might contact you directly?

-ray hodge

Posted 28 November 2007 - 09:39 PM

Well I took this field, but I am very beginner at this time, I love programing and designing but I am scared if I fail in this field,

I want to be one of best programmers in the world, I need your advises, what should I do? I want to settle in Saudi Arab, I am currently in Pakistan..

-Adnan

Posted 08 November 2007 - 03:05 PM

In my country, The Philippines, it�s just a usual job but for sure you can get a good salary I can't tell you how much because it will hit the currency you have and for sure you might think its lower or higher it depends your currency type. But for us, it�s really good money, not the best but its good. As you can see like India or other Asian countries we are also into BPO. Europeans, Americans, Australians or even some Asian nation outsource their business to us and that could only mean one thing.... JOBS! In our country a 100 percent of IT population consists only of:
10 percent are programmers
40 percent are technical supports in a call center
20 percent are network administrators and DB Administrators and
30 percent are Associate IT (working on sales shop assemble and trouble shoot PC) in that estimate developers really in demand since Western companies in the Philippines need to establish systems on their business to grow. Its a Law of Supply and Demand, and developers are in Demand.

We developers are not treated as Gods here or something, were just ordinary employees that can be fired whenever you have low performance or the company is in a danger of losing a client. If that happens we developers will not worry about it since lots of companies here in NEED OF DEVELOPERS.

As for your country, maybe it�s not yet the time for your government to open you country into BPO or maybe they just outsource their systems from other countries like India or us. When time comes that your country opens up an IT business then maybe it�s an opportunity to you as developers.

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