Replying to Flash Or Java

see java and flash are totally different in my view...
Flash is just made for how the web would look like...
but java is something deeper and you need to explore...
you can divide java into flasy part and dumb part...
this much for today...

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I'm java programmer and for today I was thinking like you, but when I saw laszlo framework, i've changed my opinion about flash
http://www.openlaszlo.org/

now I have more respect for flash:)

This comparison is funny. It's just like comparing apple to orange.... Will apple wins orange?? Let me say it that way....

BTW, Java and flash are completely different things. If you compare Java applets and flash, that makes more sense, because applets is only a small SUBSET of Java. Java includes J2ME, J2SE and J2EE, and applets is just a small part of J2SE~

Also, Sun already abandoned applets concept (you really notice they still develops applet since Java 1.2?) because it just don't work, and largely because they don't make $$ when comparing to J2EE.

I dun think Flash will EVER take over Java. Flash has it's pros and cons... So has Java. Java is something like "Pure code" and Flash has programmes for you to use where there is a "Feel and Do" Situation. Flash is for not that developed people to use. For experts, most turns to JAVA as the graphics created by JAVA can often be better than Flash. But then again, if you really are an expert in Flash, you can make things better than Java. So there is no point in saying Java takes over Flash or either way round. Both will certainly exist until one goes out of date or un-usable.

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i'm quite agree with u man!

I dun think Flash will EVER take over Java

but....i think java is very slow in his applications, for example when i start a online game as bridge on yahoo.com that use java technology...my computer start to run very slow and when i turn of it all return normal -.-

it's only my thoughts =))

Hi all,

Cool Poll. I vote for "Can't say" if any one trace the speed with which the Flash moving with is Flash Comminication Server (FCS) and updations of its FSCommands any one can get a confirmation on its competition to java. But as Flash is not a Open source and like java flash does't have dedicated Programmers here java wins, but finally we can't say right now.


Regards

Leo

they are two seperate things with sepearate objectives.

if you want moving things on your site, flash may take over javascript. in fact, it already did.

but java is a total different thing. it's an entire programming language. maybe flash will take over the java applets, but i don't think so. if you need a lot of calculation, it's still beter to go for an applet.

but java is an entire programming language that can create standalone applications. that will never go away. at least not because of flash. flash is good for some stupid cartoons & very simple games maybe.
java is way more powerfull.

really, you shouldn't compare the two

Can be, only the future can tell though. Anyway, both of them are nice proggies so it doesn't really matter.

both are different technologies and you cant compare them like so. flash is more visual while java is more to do with backend.

Both have their pros and cons anyway.
Java gives the user more control in terms of interactivity. But that comes with a price of more time spent as compared to flash.

Flash on the other hand is easy to script but lacks of certain features which can make the application more dynamic. Both Java and flash involved with object-oriented programming.

Hi developers,

Now a days if we trace the growth of flash MX and its wel known actionscript, dfntly we will get doubt that flash may overcome java, but if we see the robustness and flexibility of java then we will be in confusion. But if we get a technology which includes java programming (controlling) and view of flash, means in MVC architecture MC with java and View with Flash, then it will be greate.

Cheers