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manuleka

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:47 AM

I didn't see anything on your post about where you were buying your parts from. I was going to ask where can you normally find the best deals on new computer parts. I know newegg.com has some good sales usually. I dont think it would make sense to buy off of ebay as the parts may be used and of worse quality but maybe ebay is a good idea? Anyway where would you suggest buying all of the parts? I have an old gateway from around the year 2000 and I am going to re-do the whole thing. I have never built a computer so hoping to learn a lot from this experience. I am also a computer science major so I need this experience more than others probably. Anyway post something about where to find good deals on parts if you can ;)


good parts can very depending on ones location...

to Zenia, when you say simple, what do you mean? a PC with graphics card is still a simple PC... if you're referring to simple as in price? then still a simple PC can be cheap with a graphics card..

zenia

Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:38 PM

The main reason to build a computer is the choice of components. The computer builder can chose the components the builder wants in the computer. With a ready built computer from a shop there is not much choice. The advantage is that the builder can choose the specifations of each part of the computer. The builder is not limited by the computer the shops and the computer brands offer.

This information is given with the idea to keep things as simple as possible. So the options of an Intel processor are not explained. And the option of a graphical card is not discussed either. The use of the onboard graphical unit is simple. The speed of the internet connection and the graphical unit and the graphical card don't seem to have anything to do with eachother, though.

DJCinnamonSnow

Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:11 PM

I didn't see anything on your post about where you were buying your parts from. I was going to ask where can you normally find the best deals on new computer parts. I know newegg.com has some good sales usually. I dont think it would make sense to buy off of ebay as the parts may be used and of worse quality but maybe ebay is a good idea? Anyway where would you suggest buying all of the parts? I have an old gateway from around the year 2000 and I am going to re-do the whole thing. I have never built a computer so hoping to learn a lot from this experience. I am also a computer science major so I need this experience more than others probably. Anyway post something about where to find good deals on parts if you can :P

labstuffs

Posted 22 January 2011 - 04:55 AM

Very good information, but the question is does it make economical sense to build a pc by yourself. Most of time it did not, but maybe some real high end or customized system make sense.

grim reaper1666

Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:17 PM

you do still have to take into considering about how much memory you have since it uses so much power per gb i can't remember how much though. most people assume that its the amount of memory sticks that uses power but the actual amount of memory the memory has needs memory. the most important thing really in a computer is to amek sure that you've connected the wires correctly because if you haven't then the whole computer could burn out. don't forget if you have a computer which has a option on the power supply to change the amount of voltage it draws (the 230v/120 something volts). i learnt the hard way about that the computer i did that to burnt out destroying the motherboard and most of the other components. i only know the stuff i know through building my own computers when i need to and looking online for advice.

yordan

Posted 18 November 2010 - 10:09 PM

Nice, Grim, the small advice from a skilled technical guy! You precisely pointed the finally most important things (just after the cpu power and the memory).
Of course, people who aren't gamers don't have to care about graphics. And people who don't touch image creative things also don't care, if you just want to surf the web on a slow DSL line, any graphics embedded on the motherboard can do the job. :)

grim reaper1666

Posted 18 November 2010 - 05:04 PM

but onboard graphics usually share graphics hence they will sometimes slower than you expect them to. they are also harder to upgrade compared to graphics cards which allow you to change it over to a better card. also most motherboards these days have onboard graphics some of which are better than others. intel onboard graphics are not as good as nvidia graphics but no onboard graphics can match modern addon graphics cards. if you have multiple pci express times 16 ports than you can run multiple graphics cards (all same model and memory) which increases permformance. the amount of watts you power supply is capable of achieveing is important as well because if you do not have enough power to run the system then it will either not start or turn itself off after starting up too many power consuming parts.

zenia

Posted 18 November 2010 - 02:47 PM

Chapter 17

Building a new computer from scratch using seperate components


After connecting the internal cables and after closing the case it is time to connect the external cables. After closing the case the case can be put straight up. Attach the electicitiy cord to the electricity input connector at the back of the power unit. Attach the key board to the connector of the computer board. Do the same with the mouse. Connect the monitor to the monitor connector of the computer board. Connect the monitor to the electricity plug too.

Eventually connect the wired internet connection. Connect the external loud speakers to the sound out connector.

After plugging in the electricity cord of the computer in the electricity wall plug it is time to start the computer.
Make sure the small button on the back of the power unit is set on On.

Put a dvd with an operating program in the dvd player. Press the start button. Start the computer and open the bios. Set the boot order to start with the dvd player. Save and close the bios. Let the computer start from the dvd. Let the operating program install itself on the hard disk.

OpenOffice can be downloaded from the internet.

If all works fine the computer is ready.

zenia

Posted 17 November 2010 - 12:01 PM

Chapter 15



Attachment of the internal memory unit


When the power supply unit, the computer board, the processor, the processor cooling unit and the processor fan are put in place it is time to attach the internal memory unit. The memory unit can be placed in the memory slot in only one way. The two parts of the connection part of the memory unit are not the same. One of the parts is longer than the other part. So 1 part fits in one part of the slot. And the othe side of the connection part of the memory unit fits into the other site of the memory slot. It is recommendated to have a good look at which site of the memory unit fits into what part of the memory slot. The memory unit can be held with two fingers or one finger and the thumb. The memory unit seldom breaks. When the memory unit is put into the right position it can be held above the slot. Then the memory unit can be pushed down slently into the slot. The memory unit fits exactly into the slot. Some pressure is needed but absolutely not too much pressure. If the memory unit doesn't go down almost by itself the problem is probably that the memory unit is held the wrong way. When the memory unit fits into the slot the little chucks at both sites of the slot close the slot automatically.

The chucks can be checked by hand to make sure the memory unit is put into the slot the right way.

Chapter 16



Attachment of the internal cables


When the power supply unit, the computer board, the processor, the processor cooling unit, the processor fan and the memory unit are constructed into the case the internal cables can be attached to the computer board and the devices. The power unit has several cables attached to it. The big cable consisting of about 24 coloured wires with a big connector at the end fits into the connector of the computer board. A small probably square connector with 4, 6 or 8 connection points fits into a small connector on the computer board close to the processor socket. This cable supplies the processor with 12 Volt.

The power cable of the power unit for the hard disk can be attached to the hard disk. The power cable of the power unit for the dvd writer needs to be attached to the dvd writer.

A SATA cable can be attached to one of the SATA ports and into the SATA connector of the hard disk.

A second SATA cable needs to be attached to another SATA port and to the SATA connector of the dvd writer.

When the attachment of the internal cables is done firmly and checked and checked again the case can be closed.

zenia

Posted 16 November 2010 - 08:32 PM

Chapter 14



The case

Size


There are mainly two sizes of cases. They are called the ATX form and the miniATX or mATX form.
The ATX form is the biggest. The mATX form computer board fits into the ATX case. It is not sure if the ATX computer board fits into the mATX case.

The mATX form is ment for the computer board with a video unit built into the computer board. The ATX case is ment for the computer board that uses a seperate graphical card.

The computer board and the seperate graphical card are usually together more expensive compared to the computer board with an onboard video unit.

The case has a computer loud speaker, a button to start the computer and to end the functions of the computer, a reset button and sometimes connectors for USB and a connector for external speakers or a head set and a microphone connector in the front of the case. The case has tiny lights to show the computer is on and to show the hard disk is working.

The internal connectors for these buttons and external connectors are connected to tiny and small wires. It is recommended to use the manual, that comes in the box of the computer board, to decide to which connectors of the computer board the connectors of the case have to be connected.

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