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Replying to Symantec: Windows Is Most Secure Os
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starscream
Posted 06 November 2009 - 05:08 PM
takerraj
Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:14 PM
starscream
Posted 06 November 2009 - 11:03 AM
H.O.D.
Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:37 AM
jbitkill
Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:10 AM
Source: http://gizmodo.com/g...e-os-246447.php
lmao!! funniest thing ever!
xboxrulz
Only because they make AntiVirus for Windows doesn't mean that Windows is the safest. My friend uses Linux, a file virus downloaded in a EXE format and didn't even attempt to execute! Windows has the easiest to break in records. Click your fingers, enter blah blah in the DOS prompt and its infected.
Viruses don't go to people with mininum web education don't know about the impact that viruses does, that is why they use AntiVirus, good thinking!
Viruses go to the without AntiVirus, but don't you forget, any AntiVirus can't block all of them!
xxxx-jozh-xxxx
xboxrulz
Posted 28 March 2007 - 11:37 PM
It's quite sad that in this day and age, we still have to read between the lines, and people should be more accurate with their content, just recently a popular beverage that has been around for years, gave the impression their drink had 4 times the amount of Vitamin C than Oranges, but in their wording, they said Blackcurrants used in the drink have 4 times the amount of Vitamin C than Oranges, but university students discovered they only had 1.5 times the amount of Vitamin C than Oranges, but it's possible the Blackcurrants they used had 4 times the amount. It turns out that this drink has more sugar than Coca Cola (Coke).
Fewest number of patches means, they need to get off their ass more and fix it. The least things they fix, the least number of patches you'll see.
Shortest patch development time means they probably left a semi-colon off a product and fixed it quicker than some with more serious problems. There's been some things Microsoft has chosen to ignore, like not fixing a known problem, because they felt it wasn't worth it, so I'm guessing they also hold the title for longest awaiting patch development too.
As far as I can tell, this is just twisting the information to their advantage, Microsoft has done this quite a few times with twisting the information around to make them be on top, but what does count is comparing Operating System components themselves and not programs, also severe problems and not how long it took them to develop a patch, but how long it took them to make sure all their Operating Systems in use became patched. Another thing, everything would be judged on a default installation, how about a custom installation with minimal options or can't they do that because Windows no longer allows customisation, and you have to put up with what gets installed?
Security seems to be a big issue, and it would be with Symantec, but what about Stability. I know a lot of the problems can be a result caused by programmers, but there really needs to be standards implied, otherwise programming is just one big fire with logs being thrown in just to keep it running.
Either way, we'll never get to the truth, just people saying Windows is secure, Linux is secure, OS X is secure. May as well say everything is secure as long as you take the precautions to make sure no one can break into your home/office and steal your computer.
Cheers,
MC
That's true, fewer patches may actually mean less holes are being patched. Symantec should've said they found the least holes in Windows than any other operating system
xboxrulz
mastercomputers
Posted 28 March 2007 - 07:21 AM
Fewest number of patches means, they need to get off their ass more and fix it. The least things they fix, the least number of patches you'll see.
Shortest patch development time means they probably left a semi-colon off a product and fixed it quicker than some with more serious problems. There's been some things Microsoft has chosen to ignore, like not fixing a known problem, because they felt it wasn't worth it, so I'm guessing they also hold the title for longest awaiting patch development too.
As far as I can tell, this is just twisting the information to their advantage, Microsoft has done this quite a few times with twisting the information around to make them be on top, but what does count is comparing Operating System components themselves and not programs, also severe problems and not how long it took them to develop a patch, but how long it took them to make sure all their Operating Systems in use became patched. Another thing, everything would be judged on a default installation, how about a custom installation with minimal options or can't they do that because Windows no longer allows customisation, and you have to put up with what gets installed?
Security seems to be a big issue, and it would be with Symantec, but what about Stability. I know a lot of the problems can be a result caused by programmers, but there really needs to be standards implied, otherwise programming is just one big fire with logs being thrown in just to keep it running.
Either way, we'll never get to the truth, just people saying Windows is secure, Linux is secure, OS X is secure. May as well say everything is secure as long as you take the precautions to make sure no one can break into your home/office and steal your computer.
Cheers,
MC
xboxrulz
Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:41 AM
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Windoze = install once, worry many
*Nix = install many, worry once
I rarely need to constantly reinstall Linux, except for the kernel which I constantly upgrade since I get to use the new optimizations it comes out with each release.
xboxrulz
vhortex
Posted 28 March 2007 - 02:12 AM
I also have to say, with people who say that linux is so secure....Linux isn't used by anywhere near the number of people that windows is used by, so it isn't necessarily targeted as much by people to find holes in it. Why would a hacker, or somebody who has the intent of doing something malicious, want to try and find security issues with an OS that isn't used by as many people around the world?
well, having bazillion dollars worth of information does count.. guess i am correct.
why would need to have root or control on windows desktops when knowing that they can contain less information. the much logical things i can see on exploiting windoze desktops are the following
1. to steal bank data from users when they type in there accounts
2. create zombies for the hackers other purposes. [free spamming email server anyone? DDOS anybody?]
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Now on *Nixes, this is harder not that there are less exploits.. in fact a *Nix install out of the box will have lots of exploits open and lots of vulnerability. however, we do configure aren't we? I have conducted a test between two system. windoze and Fedora, i turn on windows proection and firewall from fresh install and I define an IPtables in Fedora.
Fedora turns out to be invisible to nmap and other port scanning software. windoze was clearly visible and ports are replying to nmap. I have succesfully made a DDOS using 20 computers on windoze and it crashed, fedora remains untouched..
No test on mac, dont have money to buy one.
.:Brian:.
Posted 27 March 2007 - 09:56 PM
First of all, as has already been mentioned, they take the total number of issues, not the number of severe ones.
In addition, you have to keep in mind that Symantec sells software for Windows, so they probably want to let people know that they should be using windows.
I also have to say, with people who say that linux is so secure....Linux isn't used by anywhere near the number of people that windows is used by, so it isn't necessarily targeted as much by people to find holes in it. Why would a hacker, or somebody who has the intent of doing something malicious, want to try and find security issues with an OS that isn't used by as many people around the world?



