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[quote name="Jeigh" post="80047" timestamp="1149515255"] On the first day of this month Cononical released the latest iteration of their linux distribution, Ubuntu. Now to revision number 6.06 they have achieved many of the necessities to having a desktop linux distribution that is useable by the masses. Originally intended to be released in April (I believe) it was delayed to polish up a few things and I think it was well spent. I have seen numerous threads on this forum about choosing a linux distro to try as the first distribution, and hopefully this review will entice many to choose ubuntu for this purpose. For more 'hardcore' linux users I hope it makes some of you see it as a viable platform (although I'd never bother trying to sway you into switching from that which you are loyal to heh). Being touted as an LTS release (Long Term Service - the first release that they will support for 5 years instead of 6 months so that it is more viable for server use), the first noticeable difference in 6.06 is the fact that it has a live cd. Ubuntu, no matter how user friendly, has been harshly criticized for its stark text based installer even though it only ever asked very simple question and then handled everything itself. Now you can boot into a fairly robust, quick responding live cd to explore ubuntu and simply doulbe click the icon 'install' on the desktop if you decide its right for you. A quick jump through a graphical installer will now take you through the choices the old text based installer asked. The only thing I didn't love was how the partitioner worked, felt a little counter-intuitive to what I'm used to, but might be fine for people not used to partitioning hard drives. Either way the install is quick and painless. Probably under 20 minutes for the entire prodcedure from putting the cd in to rebooting into the new install. Another nice touch is that Ubuntu has always been great at setting up grub. I've had up to two windows xp installs and 3 other linux distros installed (including gentoo, slack, etc) and ubuntu set up grub to see all of them automatically and all were bootable. This is great for new users just trying out linux since if they partition up their drives or install ubuntu on a seperate drive and want to keep windows then ubuntu doesn't even expect them to have to worry about it, it simply sets up everything for them. Booting in you'll start noticing why I think Ubuntu is getting so close to what the desktop linux experience needs to be. The basics automatically just work. A normal install has everything I own working at least to some extent. Graphics drivers are installed (albeit not the optimal ones... but they work for maxing my desktop resolution and still having perfect performance in that respect), my monitor rates are set properly, keyboard special keys work (some of them), etc. My printer and webcam are recognized properly but there are a few issues I'll need to tinker through, but for the most part they are already working better then they would having just installed a windows xp install (both my printer and webcam are kind of weird ones so its not surprising they dont work off the bat). It comes with a healthy set of applications, including Open Office (MS Office near equivalent but free), firefox web browser, email client, handful of desktop games, media player, music player, and other essentials. Basically the only issues I had in getting my day-to-day activities set up was getting video and mp3 codecs installed, but a quick search on ubuntuforums.org and a quick search through Synaptic (more on that in a sec) allowed me to install some other media players and music players and codecs/plugins. Now flash, video, mp3's, etc all day fine on my system. Synaptic is the graphical frontend for at-get. Apt-get is what made me stick with Ubuntu. Other distros have similar abilities (Emerge in Gentoo or example) and what this does is allow a user to simply type "sudo apt-get install _____" at a command line or search for a keyword and click 'sintall' in synaptic and it will install the program. It takes care of everything. It's easier then even installing things on windows where you need to hunt down the software from websites or disks. Now some people who are more hardcore linux users don't love using this method for all things since it doesn't always install the latest and greatest software version but for a user new to linux Synaptic will make your life very easy. Things just work in Ubuntu. A new user might have some issues but on the whole they can quickly, and more often then not easily, check into the issue at the ubuntu forums and find someone who has provided a solution. If not, the community as a whole is amazing and would be happy to help them work through the problem. Frankly I can't think of a distro that would be more appropriate for someone who has no experience with linux, and I still use it as a primary distro at home even though I've used numerous others. Some may be faster, some may have more in depth controls, but overall Ubuntu has a great mix of control and ease of use. Overall this is a great update to a great distro. The largest 6.06 specific changes are the live cd/graphical installer, updated packages, better recognition of hardware, redesigned gnome theme, and a handful of smaller changes that really just make everything feel more 'right'. I Highly reccomend checking out Ubuntu 6.06 (OR Kubuntu for KDE fans, or Xubuntu for xfce fans)[/quote] [quote name="Jeigh" post="80047" timestamp="1149515255"] On the first day of this month Cononical released the latest iteration of their linux distribution, Ubuntu. Now to revision number 6.06 they have achieved many of the necessities to having a desktop linux distribution that is useable by the masses. Originally intended to be released in April (I believe) it was delayed to polish up a few things and I think it was well spent. I have seen numerous threads on this forum about choosing a linux distro to try as the first distribution, and hopefully this review will entice many to choose ubuntu for this purpose. For more 'hardcore' linux users I hope it makes some of you see it as a viable platform (although I'd never bother trying to sway you into switching from that which you are loyal to heh). Being touted as an LTS release (Long Term Service - the first release that they will support for 5 years instead of 6 months so that it is more viable for server use), the first noticeable difference in 6.06 is the fact that it has a live cd. Ubuntu, no matter how user friendly, has been harshly criticized for its stark text based installer even though it only ever asked very simple question and then handled everything itself. Now you can boot into a fairly robust, quick responding live cd to explore ubuntu and simply doulbe click the icon 'install' on the desktop if you decide its right for you. A quick jump through a graphical installer will now take you through the choices the old text based installer asked. The only thing I didn't love was how the partitioner worked, felt a little counter-intuitive to what I'm used to, but might be fine for people not used to partitioning hard drives. Either way the install is quick and painless. Probably under 20 minutes for the entire prodcedure from putting the cd in to rebooting into the new install. Another nice touch is that Ubuntu has always been great at setting up grub. I've had up to two windows xp installs and 3 other linux distros installed (including gentoo, slack, etc) and ubuntu set up grub to see all of them automatically and all were bootable. This is great for new users just trying out linux since if they partition up their drives or install ubuntu on a seperate drive and want to keep windows then ubuntu doesn't even expect them to have to worry about it, it simply sets up everything for them. Booting in you'll start noticing why I think Ubuntu is getting so close to what the desktop linux experience needs to be. The basics automatically just work. A normal install has everything I own working at least to some extent. Graphics drivers are installed (albeit not the optimal ones... but they work for maxing my desktop resolution and still having perfect performance in that respect), my monitor rates are set properly, keyboard special keys work (some of them), etc. My printer and webcam are recognized properly but there are a few issues I'll need to tinker through, but for the most part they are already working better then they would having just installed a windows xp install (both my printer and webcam are kind of weird ones so its not surprising they dont work off the bat). It comes with a healthy set of applications, including Open Office (MS Office near equivalent but free), firefox web browser, email client, handful of desktop games, media player, music player, and other essentials. Basically the only issues I had in getting my day-to-day activities set up was getting video and mp3 codecs installed, but a quick search on ubuntuforums.org and a quick search through Synaptic (more on that in a sec) allowed me to install some other media players and music players and codecs/plugins. Now flash, video, mp3's, etc all day fine on my system. Synaptic is the graphical frontend for at-get. Apt-get is what made me stick with Ubuntu. Other distros have similar abilities (Emerge in Gentoo or example) and what this does is allow a user to simply type "sudo apt-get install _____" at a command line or search for a keyword and click 'sintall' in synaptic and it will install the program. It takes care of everything. It's easier then even installing things on windows where you need to hunt down the software from websites or disks. Now some people who are more hardcore linux users don't love using this method for all things since it doesn't always install the latest and greatest software version but for a user new to linux Synaptic will make your life very easy. Things just work in Ubuntu. A new user might have some issues but on the whole they can quickly, and more often then not easily, check into the issue at the ubuntu forums and find someone who has provided a solution. If not, the community as a whole is amazing and would be happy to help them work through the problem. Frankly I can't think of a distro that would be more appropriate for someone who has no experience with linux, and I still use it as a primary distro at home even though I've used numerous others. Some may be faster, some may have more in depth controls, but overall Ubuntu has a great mix of control and ease of use. Overall this is a great update to a great distro. The largest 6.06 specific changes are the live cd/graphical installer, updated packages, better recognition of hardware, redesigned gnome theme, and a handful of smaller changes that really just make everything feel more 'right'. I Highly reccomend checking out Ubuntu 6.06 (OR Kubuntu for KDE fans, or Xubuntu for xfce fans)[/quote]

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XIII

Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:18 AM

Best of the best for Ubuntu is the free cd ordering you can do through thier website http://www.ubuntu.com where you can create your LaunchPad ID through this link: https://launchpad.ne...n=shipit-ubuntu, which will redirect you again after that to shipIt page to continue your request, you can request up to 10 CDs for free.
Ofcourse i agree completely with Jeigh, it's the best Linux distro for people who didn't taste linux before, the easiest while having all linux applications and features, at the same time, it's not microsoft doors like and i think doors is a better name for it, because these wholes can't be called just windows
anyway, i used to use ubuntu breezy, as i can't still setup the new release because i'm away from my lovely laptop which have linux on, working on these microsoft caves workstations till i get back to my lovely pc.

I just recieved my ordered Cd's Yesterday, they are so coooool, i am waiting for forex market to go into weekend vaccation "in 10 hours and 40 minutes" to install it, i can't wait for it

Ubuntu Rocks

xboxrulz

Posted 30 June 2006 - 12:11 AM

I think that the Ubuntu team tried their best to have NTFS resizing working but, try to install the UBCD to help you to resize the NTFS partition.

xboxrulz

Jeigh

Posted 29 June 2006 - 05:06 PM

He likes Ubuntu he's just having issues partitioning his HD...

Hopefully someone will see this that has gotten past similar problems lol, I've just never had any issues with it so wouldn't know... and I always just use partition magic anyways now...

xboxrulz

Posted 29 June 2006 - 04:10 PM

not all distros were meant for everyone. If Ubuntu isn't ur thing, try another one.

xboxrulz

seec77

Posted 29 June 2006 - 10:24 AM

Well, I tried, and I couldn't find anything to fit my needs. Have you got an idea for me? I would be eternally greatful if you did.

Ubuntu doesn't seem to be working for me...

Nope, I've never had to make any modifications to partitioning devices in order to partition NTFS drives. In the livecd, in order to BROWSE the ntfs drives you would need the ntfs drivers or whatnot, but you shouldn't need them just to modify the existing partitions...

Thinking back, however, I'm not sure if the ubuntu partitioner will let you shrink partitions... it should but I didn't try it. If you can get your hand on a partitioning tool like partition magic, its really useful whenever performing anything like this. I'm sure there are other programs or even live cds with partitioning utils on them if you searched around a bit.

seec77

Posted 28 June 2006 - 06:12 PM

I'm guessing that the Ubuntu installer is capable of repartitioning NTFS drives, but the problem is that you probably have to install the NTFS drivers for such capabilities - which is impossible for me because I don't have an internet connection, and to get an internet connection I need to find a USB drive, which I can't seem to do.

Jeigh

Posted 28 June 2006 - 01:56 PM

seec77... I've repartitioned NTFS drives with various different linux distro's default partitioners plus I've done it using partition magic and all were fine... most linux distro's have issues writing to htfs (and some still reading from it) but having an NTFS drive doesn't rule out the ability to partition your drive. I'd suggest poking around the ubuntu forums or just other linux forums in general to try and find out what the problem is before buying a new HD (unless you just want more space, which never hurts heh).

Having a professional looking disc would indeed also be a big draw to shipping out the cds, although redhat ships professional looking cds too, just just charge for it

I was moreso talking about the free aspect of the shipping, but yea I'm sure they have lots of reasons for everything to do with the free cd shipping since I'm pretty sure the only real costs for cononical are employee wages and shipping the discs... and they are, after all, a business

seec77

Posted 28 June 2006 - 10:58 AM

Well, I've been trying to move on to Linux for ages now. My main problem right now is that I only have one hard drive, and it's (so thoughtfully of me) formatted to NTFS (

). Now, I've run the Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD, and I really liked it a lot, and I wanted to permanently install it on my computer (next to Windows XP)... but there's that NTFS problem. The installer couldn't repartition my hard drive!

Now, I tried to install the NTFS drivers on Ubuntu, but I didn't have an internet connection there because Ubuntu didn't recognize my Edimax USB Wi-Fi adapter, of which a driver can be found here (I think). So here began my adventures of trying to download the driver onto Ubuntu. I couldn't just leave it on my hard drive and access it through the LiveCD because my disc is NTFS (

). For some reason floppies didn't want to work. I tried burning the file on a seperate CD, but when I took out the LiveCD while in Ubuntu my system froze. Besides... I can't find any USB drive around the house. Now what was I supposed to do? So I left it alone for a while...

I would die to have Linux finally installed on my desktop! I've been trying to do it for ages! And now, with Linux as easy to use as ever (Ubuntu really does rock from what I've seen on my computer, but it was a bit slow, I think because it was running from the CD), I really can't wait. Maybe I'll get a new hard drive or something.

Anyways. I remember reading on their site about the shipIt program that they're packaging it all nicely and proffessional-looking so that it might appeal more to people. I mean, we die-hard computer geeks actually get turned on by blank CD-Rs, but if we're trying to evangelize Ubuntu, I think a box with a short manual in it, and a printed CD might actually prove really useful.

Jeigh

Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:01 PM

Hahaha, the primary reason is for that, I'm pretty sure, but I mean anyone who wants an official copy is welcome to them, they don't try to imply it's only for a certain type of person. I'm just pretty sure that was their original reason for doing it.

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