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Oct 13 2005, 03:50 AM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 8,388 |
Howdy folks......
My sis using AMD Sempron if i'm not wrong. Lately her pc giving some kinda funny beeps n cannot reboot. So.. we brought to the shop n change the motherboard ( Accordin to the shop people). After that./... brought it back.. want to try to install windows XP... problem... said some missing system file. I think the cd no problem bcos i used it many times to format my other comp. One main problem is... the CPU temperature was super high. We turn it on just 15-20 mins in an air-conditioned room.... n the temp was already over 70 degrees..... This i believe shouldn't happen. I am using an AMD 64.... and there is no problems. Even if i on the pc whole day n turn off the air cond... my syst only around 4x++ deg. My hard disk will be a lil hot though... around 50++. Wat's the burning point of a system anyway? 80 Degrees? This post has been edited by microscopic^earthling: Oct 23 2005, 02:49 PM |
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Oct 13 2005, 05:58 AM
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Hedonist at large Group: Members Posts: 610 Joined: 30-July 05 From: another realm Member No.: 7,524 |
I think you should check up and see if the processor fan is working or not. Go into the BIOS setup and see under the 'Hardware Monitor'. I use an AMD 2600+ at college and an AMD 2000+ at home and the cpu fan is never below 3500rpm. I've had to replace the fan twice at home.
I'm not sure of the burning point, but if the system is working fine, then there shouldn't be any reason for alarm. Whenever my processor gets overheated, it hangs up. But once I reboot, it works fine again. It happened a couple of times at home when I was playing Quake 3 because of improper cooling, but after underclocking the system, I didn't have anymore problems. |
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Oct 13 2005, 02:33 PM
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Administrator [level 69] Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: 12-April 05 From: USA Member No.: 3,911 |
in my experience i have had systems fry under 70 degrees....so i went into bios and changed the setting (which my bios supports - most should) so that if my cpu gets over 60 degrees it will automaticly shut down. i also use cpu cool and monitor it so that if it does get a little hot i can shut it down...or the program. anyways, i have also had problems with xp cds bringing up that error saying that there is a missing system file. it is not the cd, however, it is the cd drive. every time i had that error. it was usualy on an older cd drive (mostly burners) and i just replaced with a newer better drive and it worked fine. as for your overheating problems. you said you took it into a shop. you might want to check to see if they attached the heatsink properly. and if all your fans are working. my p4 almost got fried just because the cpu fan came unplugged, got to almost 80 degrees, and i have about 5 fans in my system. but just try replacing the cd drive...even if its only for the installation of windows. and check the heatsink and fan....hope that helps
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Oct 16 2005, 10:48 AM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 1,044 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Kapellen (Antwerp, Belgium) Member No.: 7,585 |
djees, hard post to read
Anyway, the "bruning" point is realy high, somewhere up to 200°c or something, but stability problems can occur when the cpu is at a certain temp (it depends on the cpu how much it can go above the recommended max. temp). As abhiram said, check you cpu fan, if it's running, then check how warm the heatsink realy is (when it's at "70°c"). If you can't touch it, than it's realy too hot and you should get a new heatsink or fan. If not, than temp reading might be wrong OR the heatsink isn't properly installed (no heat is being move from cpu to heatsink). Other than that, you memory or hdd may be corrupted. You can check the memory by using Memtest68 and you hdd by using a tool from the hdd manufacturer (you can find it on their site). |
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Oct 16 2005, 02:01 PM
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Demonic Enforcer Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 597 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,861 |
Well, here's a lil tip
I noticed my CPU was running pretty hot, (54°C average with only Firefox, Thunderbird, Winamp (with DFX), all those messengers running, so no big programs to make my CPU peak. For the record, the CPU is an AMD Athlon 64 3400+. So I took another look on the inside of my case It seems to help But I would also look into the dusty-ness of the fan and heatsink, since it can cause the airflow to be less "flowy". |
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Oct 16 2005, 05:14 PM
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Whitest Black Mage Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 1,352 Joined: 20-May 05 From: NB, Canada Member No.: 5,281 |
Yea cleaning the cpu fan/heat spreaders can help a fair bit. I'd also reccomend adding a fan or two if there is only like one fan in the case. Having some pulling in air and another pushing it out creates a nice airflow through the case and keeps it cooled alot better in my experience. I had an issue with mine running at about 60-65 when I'd run games and it would crash the system as it was hitting my bios set shutdown points... but I added one intake fan to the front and have one out fan on the back and now it runs a good 5-10 degrees lower at all times and heat dissapeates at an exponentially faster rate.
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Oct 19 2005, 07:56 AM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 9,179 |
Bah with all of that. If your gonna do something I say go all out.
Damn it, what socket is that processor? Half of em have 462 pins and the other half has 754. Well if it's socket 754... http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxp.html Lol that might be a little too much for the normal user but maybe you should get a new one if the old one is giving you trouble. Hmmmm... Maybe it's just the fan that broke. You could take off the old fan and replace it with a high rpm fan. If the thing still gives you trouble you could keep the new fan and get a new heat sink to match it. I think that's the best advice I can give without being there. |
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Oct 22 2005, 01:13 PM
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Way Out Of Control - You need a life :) Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 1,044 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Kapellen (Antwerp, Belgium) Member No.: 7,585 |
seems like there no reply coming from Irwan, maybe the computer burnt his hous down
No, no, I'm just kiddin' Another useful tip to prevent dusty hsf's is to ad some dustfilters on the in- and outtake fans. It could be anything, like panty's, or gauze (the one you use to keep fly's outside), ... You'll only have to check them once in a while, because if you have a dusty house, it'll be stuffed in no time. |
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Oct 22 2005, 04:55 PM
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Premium Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 28-January 05 Member No.: 2,370 |
Could be dust. Dry getting a canned of compressed air and spray the dust away...another tip Popular Mechanics offered was to make a filter for your fan(s) out of panty hose.
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Oct 23 2005, 08:34 AM
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Member [ Level 1 ] Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 18-October 05 Member No.: 9,179 |
Nah, if it was just dust it wouldn't be this bad. I have a feeling the fan got worn out or something so it's under operating. But I suppose it could be dust but nah… It would have to be caked on so thick. That wouldn’t happen unless you lived in dustville.
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