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> Ajax! The Best Web App. Programing Method, Ajax its not a new code its a new method that is great.
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:06 PM
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Ok im just curious of how many people have heard of Ajax its NOT a new language, BUT it is a new breakthrough on how to combine Asynchronous JavaScript and XML. If you havn't heard of it check out 30boxes.com it is a great example of what is capable when using it. it is the best way to make web apps and i recomend it to many people.
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post Nov 10 2006, 02:04 AM
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By now most people who have been doing web design know about it. I know msn and yahoo use it for their search engines, Their are several chatroom scripts and all that code stuff.

Although i haven't really done anything with it but does anyone know if w3c validates the code at all?
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post Nov 10 2006, 06:15 AM
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Well, I think a lot of whom know about it Today, especially when google started to use it on gmail, before it wasn't as popular and a lot of people didn't hear about it and there weren't a lot of tutorials how to use it, but Today there are so much tutorials of how to use AJAX that I can't choose which one to use. I have used AJAX and find it very useful, but there are always problems with browser support.. The only thing I don't like with it that I am not a fan of javascript and I only used it for html forms and not the content.

AJAX might be or will be replaced or something like that, a better usage of AJAX I think will be the E4X and it will be much easier to use it together with xml, but of course you'll need a browser supporting it? Always a problem for a web-designer. smile.gif
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post Nov 10 2006, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(saint-michael @ Nov 10 2006, 03:04 AM) *

Although i haven't really done anything with it but does anyone know if w3c validates the code at all?


As it's just javascript code, it's perfectly valid for w3c.
In fact, it's just normal javascript using a new objet (XMLHttpRequest) to request something to the server. Maybe to execute a server-side application, to search a database, run cgi scripts or any other thing smile.gif.
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post Nov 10 2006, 10:37 PM
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Google has a really good way to implement AJAX. They have a service called Google Web Toolkit (GWT). GWT takes Java code and "translates/compiles" it into JavaScript and HTML. It makes making web applications really easy. Sure, you aren't coding the JavaScript yourself, but that makes it better. Java code is much easier to maintain and it is easier, with the help of GWT, to make it work on "all" web browsers. I haven't had much time to play with it, but I am working on a project that I will use it for.

AJAX is definitely a really good methodology. I hear that someone is going to improve it for the new Web 2.0 movement. This will make it even easier to make dynamic pages and make it easier to bring users relevant content. Hurrah to the AJAX movement!!!!
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post Nov 11 2006, 01:02 AM
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@borlafu I thought as much, thanks for verifying it.

now from beatgammit's post Are we talking about straight java or could dhtml be converted as well?
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post Nov 11 2006, 04:54 AM
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Google has a really good way to implement AJAX. They have a service called Google Web Toolkit (GWT). GWT takes Java code and "translates/compiles" it into JavaScript and HTML. It makes making web applications really easy. Sure, you aren't coding the JavaScript yourself, but that makes it better. Java code is much easier to maintain and it is easier, with the help of GWT, to make it work on "all" web browsers. I haven't had much time to play with it, but I am working on a project that I will use it for.
I've messed with the GWT quite a bit and can't help but admire it. It's great how compatibility isn't really much of an issue anymore with the GWT. There does seem to be a small drawback--the files can be really huge, even if what you want to do doesn't necessarily garner such a file size. Coding the Javascript yourself probably makes for slightly cleaner/clearer code, but if you're like me and are lazy, using GWT is great.

And...if not obvious it, I've definitely heard of Ajax. When I first found out about it, my reaction was, "What's some ancient Greek soldier doing in web design?" (Yes, Ajax was a dude in Homer's Iliad). But I learned to admire Ajax after seeing Gmail and a number of Ajax intensive applications. And Ajax does make pages easier to deal with; I've never liked waiting for a page to load. Now if only all browsers could support Javascript in the same manner...then Ajax would really be on its road to success. =)
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post Nov 11 2006, 06:44 AM
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Yes,I heared of it much earlier and already implemented into my app.
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post Nov 11 2006, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Arbitrary)
I've messed with the GWT quite a bit and can't help but admire it. It's great how compatibility isn't really much of an issue anymore with the GWT. There does seem to be a small drawback--the files can be really huge, even if what you want to do doesn't necessarily garner such a file size. Coding the Javascript yourself probably makes for slightly cleaner/clearer code, but if you're like me and are lazy, using GWT is great.

And...if not obvious it, I've definitely heard of Ajax. When I first found out about it, my reaction was, "What's some ancient Greek soldier doing in web design?" (Yes, Ajax was a dude in Homer's Iliad).


Actually, there were two Ajaxes in the Iliad, but that's besides the point. As far as the GWT goes, writing the code by hand, at least for me, results in code that's about twice as small and twice as fast. Include the fact that javascript now has the capability to be "Object Oriented" (sort of) and code can be made much more elegeant and modular by writing by hand.

This is not to say that the GWT is bad. It can be very useful for people who do not know enough javascript to write effective AJAX applications.

On the other hand, I have seen several abuses of AJAX for things that should not have been done in AJAX. So my feelings are mixed.

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post Nov 12 2006, 05:07 AM
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i hurd about that
my frind use that
i dont know JS and XML :\
but this is coming

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