Hello everyone,

Many people do not believe in in God anymore. There religion became 'Darwinism', hanging on the evolution theory, thinking that it is based on science.
Now I would like to turn the situation, proving the existance of God by using the Quran and starting with this funny but a serious video of an ex-priest. So take a look and have pleasure.

Click here to see the video 'Science proves Quran is from Allah' from Yusuf Estes

Yusuf who..???
www.islamtomorrow.com


Lorenza

As a former Muslim, my current belief is that all the so-called scientific proofs of Quran being a Divine revelation are either fake, misleading, or at least mistaken. And the same goes for every other religion I've come in contact with till this time.


But aside from that, even though I believe the poster has an agenda which he/she is trying to apply here (and I have nothing against that, really ), I'll answer the subject question...


As an agnostic, I don't know whether a god exists or not. I believe that the human mind at this time is not capable of reaching a definite conclusion regarding this matter, either intellectually, philosophically, or scientifically. Every time I have a discussion with a believer in the existence OR non-existence of a god, I find critical flaws in the logic used, which strengthens my aforementioned belief.


This is my quick, to-the-point answer to the question posted. I might come back for a detailed discussion if this subject gets heated up .



Cheers.

Personally I think God does exist but I know many people who would disagree, if not extremely strongly, with me. I go to an international school in Thailand and as such there are some kids in my school who say they don't believe that there is a God. I have one friend in particular who will use any argument that comes to mind to argue against the fact that there is anything remotely similar to a God.

I think the first thing we need to do is define the word GOD.

God:


from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=god

I have heard many arguments for and against the existance of a God and both for and against have some good arguments and some totally bogus junk. Some arguments leave you with your jaw hanging down going what? and others make you laugh they're so pathetic. However I will refrain from going into too much detail right now for lack of time. However, I think along the same lines as tamer3kz, if this subject starts gaining some speed I might post some more.

cyborgxxi

Hello everyone,

Personally I do not believe in in God anymore. If he exists. Show me the proof. In this 21st Century dont think like a fools.

Sorry if i hurts anybody.

I believe that God truly exists. If you ask yourself these questions:
If the universe did start from a spec of dust, maybe even smaller, then where did it come from?
If all living things did evolve from simple single-celled organisms, then how come there still are single-celled organisms lying around?

Now you may counter that with a question similar to this: If there is God, then where did he come from? Well, the answer to that is that God is the beginning and the end--He is the Alpha and Omega.

God's thoughts cannot be read by anyone, not because he doesn't exist but because his "mind" if i may call it that is way too big for us to understand with our little brains. It's just like a man trying to communicate with an ant--it's impossible. That's why God created the Word, the Bible. This bible is a compilation of stories and messages by prophets. But ask yourself this: how can all the books in the bible flow so smoothly altogether when each one were created by different people, during different time periods from different places. Some haven't met each other, yet they all share the same ideas and beliefs.

This post has been edited by demolaynyc: Sep 17 2006, 04:46 AM

It really depends on what kind of person you are, as well as how you were raised, where you live etc.

For example, I live in Serbia (Orthodox church), but here we don't have a "strong" connection with God. Also, my parents are atheists, so I was raised in a "no God" area. But neither of those have as much influence as the third thing - which is science.

Since I'm all about science () I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe there is something that controls us all - especially if there is no proof. Thank you, but I'd rather stick to the Big Bang theory and Chrales Darwin's ideas...

God of ?"Islam"?.

Muslims believe there is only one God, a God for all, which is Allah, and Allah is just an Arabic word for God, not a particular God to their religion.

I dont know what I exactly believe in, but I like to believe that their is something out there that is helping me through life. Because Im pretty sure people have experienced certain situations or events that was life threatening and you couldnt believe that you walked away from it unscarred. For example, I have a friend that was racing down a moutain, he was not able to handle this one turn and drove off the cliff and rolled his car down the hill 2 times and totalled his car, but he walked away from it without a scratch. Could it be a god that is looking over him saying that it is not yet his time? Or could he just be lucky?

Its those type of events that makes me believe that their is a being out there that is looking over us. Another example would be, me for one, I was driving on the freeway behind this one truck, it had a lot of stuff on the back. Out of no where a metal sheet came flying in my windshield point first. I was not able to switch lanes because there were cars on both sides of me, but before the metal sheet could come flying straight into my windshield it flew downwards and then underneath my car. I was surprised because with the speed and the distance I was away from that truck in front of me, it was surely supposed to hit straight into my windshield. I for one was lucky.

There are probably more incidents like these that I am giving examples of, but from that I think there is something out there that is watching over us, and helping us avoid harm. Would it be "God" I dont know but I know that if some people cant walk away from getting struck by lighting and other outrageous events there must be something supernatural that is interfereing during that event to help that individual.

I am not a religious person, I just like to stay neutral, even though I believe in some kind of a "creator", but creator of what? Definitely not humans, because that in some way is proved by science.. but nevertheless I think that now God is only our imagination, no one has prove he exists, we just believe in something we created our selfs, we even created "love" and "fate".. we created numbers and mathematics, we created ..1010 1000 0001.. we agreed on what we created. So in some way, we are the "creators" but we, the creators do not know who created us, the galaxy, the universe.. so we believe in theories which were created by us..

In some way, I believe that the word God stands for something we don't know, for example in the ancient Greece, we didn't know why lightning appeared, so we created a God of lightning, it is logical, we don't know what is the last number in the mathematics, so we have an object -8 +8 just the letter 8 is horizontal, not vertical. We don't know yet, but everything is changing with time, we know more and more and maybe we one day will reach a such knowledge that we will reach the God and our mission will be over, maybe.. We have a wide imagination and can think of a lot of things.. People used to believe that the World is flat, so we have different theories what kind of form the universe is, but maybe the future people will be laughing from us, because they will know it.

On this subject no one is right, no one is false, it is a lifestyle, if you believe it or not, I can create my own religion and can find people which will believe it, in some way the Church, Christians is a sect having the most members, same for any other religion. But this guy is right in some way, especially people start to believe in God when something bad happens, like you are near death. Humans are not perfect and I think there is nothing perfect.

As an agnostic myself, I don't know if god exist because there's currently NO proof of him or her anywhere.

However, religious people claim there were, but I'm thinking, what's the proof to back it up.

Furthermore, the subject of is there god or not is very sensitive to regions like North America.

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